Lawyer Responds: John Oliver SLAPPs Back? (Real Law Review)

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    Summary from Vulture:
    Remember back in 2017 when John Oliver did a Last Week Tonight segment about coal company CEO and “geriatric Dr. Evil” Bob Murray, then - as predicted - was sued by Bob Murray the following week? Oliver couldn’t discuss the lawsuit while it was ongoing, but we did get an update when the case was dismissed in February 2018, when Oliver, referencing the original segment, told Murray to “eat shit.” What you might not know, however, is that Murray appealed the case after it was dismissed, so Oliver was yet again forced into silence until the case was recently dropped. Which brings us to last night’s Last Week Tonight, when Oliver was finally free to recap the entire saga … and, in doing so, to start a whole new saga too.
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    1. LegalEagle

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      1. O B

        Quick note on costs for the "british system", costs are very rarely the actual costs you incur, they're instead a fixed amount, based on a table of the amount claimed. For example, if you sued for a million dollars and lost, the judge would look up the table, look up a claim for a million dollars and then award you the corresponding amount in costs. The thing is, however, that those costs are never even CLOSE to the amount you'll actually incur, in my experience, they're usually less than 10% of your actual costs (though in some cases where the damage amounts claimed are ridiculously high and the difficulty of dismissing the lawsuit is extremely low, you can actually come out ahead, but that's only the vast minority of cases). Costs that are equal to your ACTUAL costs are called "costs on a solicitor-client basis" where essentially you have your lawyer submit their bill to the other side. These are *very* rare, and only permitted in cases where the lawsuit has been made in deliberate bad faith, as a punitive measure for abuse of the court system, which is a very high bar to cross. So SLAPP lawsuits are still very much a thing in the commonwealth legal systems, unfortunately. Though SLAPP suits do have a higher likelihood of being in bad faith and potentially resulting in solicitor-client costs, so it's at least a *little* more effective than the american one at discouraging them.

      2. Echoeversky Ü

        NotALawyer: given the constitutional nature of free speech, national anti-slapp laws are warranted.

      3. Dewayne Thomas

        @LilleTotte It has been since it's birth I believe.

      4. Dewayne Thomas

        @LilleTotte OJ Simpson walked, plenty of em do.

      5. LilleTotte

        So the American judicial system is Pay-to-Win?

    2. Darth Star Killer

      I heard bob Murray loves getting pegged by transvestites and licks all the jizz off the floor like a dog

    3. Russell

      $200,000 to HBO doesn't even qualify as a rounding error.

    4. robert hicks

      The bias is very clear at the end. Yes they can impeach, but they need evidence that there is some reason to remove the president. So far there is only evidence that he defeated a traitor.

    5. derrill yager

      Thanks for the education on how much the legal " deck" is stacked against the average person. Eyes Open America.

    6. Mike Goldsberry

      Bob Murray? He personally killed Epstein, on the orders of the Illuminati

    7. Paul TheSkeptic

      Hm. I'd like to put out a few scenarios just to see how you'd react. These scenarios aren't related to this, it just reminded me of it. Once upon a time, H&J from a CZ-news channel that's something like Holy Book Re Armed, got one of those false DMCA takedown notices. Their attorney told them something like. "Well this is the most egregiously false DMCA I've ever seen. This is outrageous, egregious, it's preposterous! Plus you know, this is uncharted territory and it would help establish some precedent which could aid other creators know what they can and cannot say." A few months later "Well, you channel is in good standing, he dropped the DMCA and I've already been paid... er I mean, HEY! look at this over here. I thought I saw something. Nevermind. I mean, did you really want to file a lawsuit that might last years? What would the best outcome be in that case?" Similarly, a divorce lawyer after being told of their plans for an amicable and swift divorce, might say "Oh no. You're entitled to this. You helped build all this up and now you're just ;etting it all go?" I think you see where I'm aiming. Far be it from me to impugn the nature of your profession but you must have heard about this sort of thing. And other professionals have this temptation also. It's not just lawyers. It's obvious that lawyers are a necessary part of society but when and if they do do this, there's very little anyone can do about it. Is this a common practice? Thanks.

    8. Patrick Lloyd

      America: Eventually enacts the English rule and anti-SLAPP laws Nintendo of America and Disney: "I've yeed my last haw..."

    9. Pelly Thirteen

      Why the promo with the suits in the end ? Such a cheap end to a good video.

      1. bafrali5561

        Deal with it boomer. You dont have to watch it.

    10. 564blablk

      Now that was a smooth transition from law expert to clothes salesman!

    11. TheKnives777

      Ah, Murry in order to be defamed you must first be famous. He's just a frog neck pile of shit that no one cares about and if he had no money would be another garbage collector living in a hole somewhere in the midwest. @

      1. Whip Scorpion

        Do not impugn garbage collectors, nor any other honorable profession. Garbage collectors actually earn good money. Isn't Bob Murray the garbage which the collectors clear from your home?

    12. Mr. Pulsar

      I'm starting my pre-law studies in Spring 2020 and I enjoy watching your videos even if I have slightly different views. I think it's important to understand others so I appreciate you taking the time to make these videos.

    13. gspendlove

      Bob Murray? Isn't he the guy who walked up to Mister Rogers and punched him in the face?

    14. The Brexiteer

      Ask Oliver where the donation he promised for Donald Trumps campaign is!

      1. bafrali5561

        Next to your brain.😂😂😂

    15. Anon CO

      I support slap suits, not slap laws, also despite that if a law exists in your favor, always make use of it. I would've also sued John Oliver

    16. broscosmoline

      As a resident of the frozen north (canadia), i appreciate the information here re "American Rule" vs English rules w respect to recovery of attorney fees. I've encountered the term "unreformed" in connexion to the US legal system, and i understand this to be a technical term, as other legal systems are said to be reformed. Is the "American Rule" characteristic of an unreformed legal system? Better yet, can you describe what it means for law to unreformed or reformed?

    17. Bevan Bennett

      My only concern here is that the anti-SLAPP penalty can also be unbalanced based on the caliber of Counsel retained. If you can retain high-quality lawyers they not only are more likely to prevail but also impose a higher penalty on your opponent... and "corporate lawyers" tend to the higher end of the pay scale, which means that corporations still have leverage.

    18. John P

      West Virginia is chock full of all kinds of stupid, isn't it? It's in America, so I slouldn't be surprised.

    19. Mohammed Shabbeer

      IM DONE WITH THIS

    20. Mohammed Shabbeer

      NO MORE

    21. Mohammed Shabbeer

      PLEASE STOP

    22. Mohammed Shabbeer

      NO

    23. woodwrecker

      way to many commercials makes you not worth watching

    24. Henrik Lindell

      Bob Murray? That's the guy that shot Swedish prime minister Olof Palme in '86

    25. Jean-Luc Coelho

      Anti slapp laws in a lot of cases help big corporations by allowing them to dismiss lawsuits against them and punish whoever sued them

    26. EGstill85

      Not to mention the much larger problem of criminal cases where the state has unlimited funds to prosecute a civilian defendant who very often doesn’t have enough money to pay rent. This leads to defendants who are oftentimes innocent of the crime they are accused of committing feeling obligated to take a guilty plea in hopes of a reduced sentence rather than right for the true, which money could buy with a qualified attorney as opposed to a overworked, sometimes under qualified public defense attorney. The system is designed to function smoothly under this crooked set of money incentivized rules for cases being prosecuted. If everyone suddenly decided they would not attempt to work out a deal with the state, the entire legal system would come to a grinding crash. I’d say this is the more worrying issue over rich people suing other rich people trying to defend reputations already known to be corrupt in the public eye.

    27. Kian Blackey

      Why didn’t you mention the affect of these kinds of SLAPP suits on non-public figures like JO does during his episode. I would like to know you’re take on how these sort of suits actually affect the people that they do the most damage on, such as those who don’t have the means to defend against it in the first place.

    28. Ben Thomason

      Maybe you guys wouldn't be so expensive if you didn't spend hundreds of dollars minimum on clothes.

    29. StrangeCalibur

      The way you transition to the ad nearly makes it feel like the entire video was made as a setup just for it...... it's so fluid....

    30. T Nicholas

      Bob Murray? That's the man who shot JFK!

    31. aki akiii

      In conclusion, John Oliver is awesome

    32. nekodesigner

      Nice segway to the sponsors

    33. Hagrid the Table

      EPICO

    34. Quinntus79

      Isn’t Bob Murray the guy who impales his miners and then dips his bread in their blood?

    35. Roman Kotas

      Bob Murray vivisected all of my cats

    36. Cathal Duggan

      Bob Murray created AIDS

    37. reginaldino enchillada

      Yes, my friend, u r explaining why the system is biased in favor of rich ppl vs the poor.

    38. JustusLM

      This is the first time I have seen a reaction to an episode of John Oliver that basically just says "yeah, he pretty much got everyting right".

    39. Marvin England

      Me: I hate ads *Enjoys the video greatly* Sees Indochino ad at the end of the video Also Me: "You son of a bitch. I'm in."

    40. Scott Valentine

      Objection - where is the grade?

    41. James Bobreski

      We need any and all protection of freedom of speech so yes anti slapp laws

    42. marco polo

      In Canada, and I assume the same to be true in the UK, recovery of legal costs by the successful litigant is not a dollar for dollar indemnity.

    43. Mike D

      Where's Davie504? All this SLAPP and ZERO bass. ILLEGAL! Call the police!

    44. dsharkyo

      Is this a Davie504 reference? I challenge YOU to a SLAPP battle with DAVIE504

    45. Jargon Madjin

      "What did the hand say to the face? SLAPP!"

    46. Shinbu1128

      Bob Murray? You mean Jack the Ripper?

    47. furhunter11

      I truly enjoyed the information you gave in this video. WOW! And you explained it so the average layman could understand it. Thank you very much.........Thornton

    48. jamie melvill4

      Why all the editing blips... would you hire this grease ball? Schietzer writtin all over his slimey little face.

    49. Deri

      You effectively say effectively way too often.

    50. Brent Polk

      The Pop Zooming is distracting...

    51. intuitiv.me

      So the system favorites the rich over the poor. Sounds familiar? Money rules, not justice.

      1. UltimaPowers

        "The Land of the Free" Except when it comes to healthcare or justice.

    52. Adrian

      "Arguably" "allegedly" "probably" The holy trifecta of US Juridical system :D

    53. jcllings

      The un-funny Communist John Oliver should be sued till he's broke and represents the Democratic ideal. A losing loser who loses even at losing.

      1. Whip Scorpion

        Wipe the drool from your chin.

    54. Kenneth James Peromingan

      Please do a Lawyer review on Molly's Game

    55. Zachary Scott

      For the record, John Oliver is a twat.

      1. Whip Scorpion

        But twats are good. I really like twats. You don't?

    56. MrMigraine

      This might be outside your scope, but can you please do a video that explains Common law (used in UK, US, Commonwealth states) in general, and compares to other systems of law like Napoleonic (Civil), Germanic (Civil), Nordic (Civil), etc...

    57. ZhangtheGreat

      Bob Murray killed Mufasa, wished himself into a genie to conquer Agrabah, and set off an eternal winter in Arendelle #EatShitBob

    58. SomeoneCommenting

      The American justice system was made by the rich for the rich. The laws will always give advantage to the rich over the poor, and this is a good example of that. Just go through all legislators and try to find how many are *not* rich, or friends of the rich who pay for their campaigns. It is a very very small group. The rest are all rich guys. These days you can't even think about running for president unless you are rich or have billionaires backing you up in campaign. You have seen in the news how primary candidates get out of the run simply because they cannot make the numbers, no matter if the guy had the best ideas and was the most decent candidate. This country runs on money, and the legal system is no exception.

    59. Pedro Hernandez

      Bob Murray? isn't that the fat guy that convinced the Russians to rig the US election in 2016?

    60. Grinning Goat

      Doesn't it feel weird that the show uses both a factual tone to report the news side by side with comedy? I know I'm being a bit of devil's advocate here, but switch from joke to news to joke to news, it seems like an invitation to cross the line. It present a statement and add ridicule for it, conditioning a response as you watch it. My point is that having a comedy routine side by side with a journalistic report seems like a way to get away that journalistic approach might not be able too.

    61. P Schmied

      Indo-Chino = Indochina = Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam

    62. P Schmied

      The judicial system is NOT " effectively a branch of the government" 6:42 It IS a branch of the government. It's a bad lawyer who doesn't "say what you mean, mean what you say". cz-news.net/online/video-B3yxIc7e980.html

    63. Prjndigo

      A court that accepts a lawsuit and allows service without any evidence is in violation of the Rule of Law and subject to RICO. No questions asked, allowing the filing of a lawsuit without evidence results in court fees, profit. Remember to also cite the COURT in your anti-SLAPP as a hostile party. Allowing a filed suit without any evidence is equivalent to unreasonable search and seizure. It is an impediment to the **victim's** time, standing and income and is slander in and of itself.

    64. CECI CEO

      John Oliver is BRITISH + he was being SARCASTIC ABOUT TRUMP. America is a joke in the U.K.; ESPECIALLY YOUR LIBEL LAWS AND JUDICIARY SYSTEM. He is ALSO A COMIC - VERY POPULAR IN YOUR COUNTRY.

    65. Shamus H

      Bob Murray? You mean the Zodiac Killer?

    66. richard lawton

      Objection: The plaintiffs on winning in the UK do not always get their legal fee's paid for when the win a case plenty end up being landing in huge debts or out of pocket fighting court cases. It is not an automatic some will get the full costs some get nothing at all and some may get a partial sum for the legal troubles.

      1. richard lawton

        @Alucard You do not there have been several high profile cases that have left the accused out of pocket after the judges awarded damages that did not cover the legal costs of the case in the UK in recent years several of them involving TV companies.

      2. Alucard

        richard lawton you will always get the cost of defence and lawyers if it is asked for by the winning side

    67. Erik Olsen

      Note that Mr. Nutterbutter isn't just "a staff member". That's Noel MacNeal, the in-house puppeteer at Last Week Tonight. He started on The Great Space Coaster, has performed in several Henson productions, and is probably best known as Bear from Bear in the Big Blue House.

    68. hannahalice

      It speaks volumes to note that the UK law doesn't have any form of anti-SLAPP legislation and not even the concept for a need for it. But I would go even further that the USA needs a "plaintiff pays" in criminal cases where the police "overcharge" in order to punish by layer fees or gain an advantage to force plea bargaining

    69. Angel Dust The Porn Star

      To quote bob murray, or rather to absolutely mock and face desk him: "Welcome to the coal plant, it's a dangerous place. Thank you for investing. Go there for your router, there for your orders, we'll pollute the world to fill up our quotas. If you get injured, there'll even be fees at your funeral for your mourners. Prosperity wasted on worthless humans, they're just fuel to the fire for our endorsements. Honestly, did you not read the coal plants policy on workplace misdemeanors and injuries, that defines you illegally as coal company policy? I've got you in lock and key, no honesty needed when you've already bleeded against the bladed bleachers. Were you expecting human rights? Were you expecting a raise? Were you hoping the death toll would be low? Ha! No at all! My friend you're indentured, just like a roll of a slot machine; you'll work, to earn the right to work, to earn the right to work more, just so you can eventually die. $ $ $ Dollars in stacks higher than the twin towers, oh come now, you're just an oiled up gear for the machine, if you feared for your life, you should of read the fine print, cause now you're in deep debt, bet you regret it, no way to forget it, but let me assure you you're now set to work for life as I make a public announcement PR lie, defamation? Makes more famous if it's all in good inflation, country rode, west Virginia, Alabama, sorry, did I sue and ban ya? They save 'save the trees', but who will pay for your funeral fees? I'll make a deal if you'll make an appeal, removal is for your approval, I'm just here for the top dollar, making money off your shoulder, who knew such a tycoon could cause a monsoon? Guess we'll see soon in episode 2..."

      1. Whip Scorpion

        @Angel Dust The Porn Star I knew it was, and I enjoyed your poetry.

      2. Angel Dust The Porn Star

        @Whip Scorpion It was more of a parody diss track.

      3. Whip Scorpion

        Please just say in 5 words or less why you worship Bob Murray and corporate capitalism so much.